Cornell SubI

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why the f is everyone obsessed with the nyc programs, nyc sucks to train in

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Lmao nyc academics are paid absolutely jacked salaries and nyc is fun it’s not surprising

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Cornell is only worth training at because of Schwartz.

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Not sure what clown thinks NYC academics are paid well, they’re practically beggars, especially considering they’re in a super expensive city. Most neurosurgeons avoid NYC like the plague given the high taxes and terrible pay.

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publicly available salaries for their chair and other faculty says otherwise

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lol if youre talking about 1 chair and 1 extremely high volume endowed professor then youre a clown for thinking the rest of the faculty are pulling anywhere near 3 million

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Yes, exactly, they found a single employment position and think it’s indicative of nyc academia. Clowns is def an accurate term. It’s like reading a single case report and thinking it’s as high quality evidence as a RCT.

They also fail to realize that most busy private practice neurosurgeons (especially spine) will generally effortlessly make millions. Most of these NYC academic neurosurgeons are going to get paid garbage, and get out earned by internal medicine hospitalists in the Midwest. It’s embarrassing frankly.

But hey, honestly I’m thrilled that most of the morons on this site love to bend over backwards and take it up the a$$ for these awful academic jobs, because it takes them out of the serious job market, and means they’re not going to be serious competition for cases/market volume. The more the merrier.

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I don't think that's what the previous poster is saying. Yes, *starting* academic salaries in NYC are a joke. Yes, private practice EM doctors or anesthesia folks will outearn them to start. But once you become full professor and switch to an RVU or collections model, you can make a ton of money. It's also not a single employment position - there are lots of examples across NYC hospitals. Paul McCormick, Han Jo, Riina, Ted Schwartz and all the usual big name surgeons make 2-3M/year (all public), but even less known people like Frempong at NYU made >3M, and they don't have to live in the middle of nowhere Iowa to make that. They also take almost no call, are fully protected by residents/fellows, and get to go to their second house in the Hamptons at 5 PM on Friday.

Not everyone wants to work/freeze their ass off to make more money in the middle of nowhere.

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Don't forget compound interest is your friend, even assuming you did have a guarantee of someday getting that kush. Best case scenario would be to get a better salary elsewhere and then move to New York once you are debt free and have some money working for you in an investments.

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I’m not sure what’s funnier, that you think you’ll thrive attempting to practice on NyC, or that you think 3 million a year is enough to have a house in the Hamptons. Considering federal and state taxes, these guys are taking home less than half of that 3 mill after taxes. Now considering the extravagant cost of living in NYC, they are prob at best affording a 2000 sq foot mediocre apartment in manhattan, much less a vacation mansion in the Hamptons. More than likely they don’t even live in Manhattan, and instead reside in Brooklyn or one of the other Burroughs where money goes a bit farther. Also fairly good odds some of these docs don’t even have cars, since it’s NYC. Like the previous poster said, it’s comparable to paupers/beggars by NYC standards.

Ignorant statements like that make it clear it’s a feisty uninformed med student who’s never paid taxes making the argument, not an attending pulling a large paycheck.